Music Series: Part 2

Ok, while I continue to search the web for a possible candidate for my custom theme, I’ve decided to proceed with business as usual. That means jumping right back into our music series. Again, this series may not be for you, so read on at your own risk. The following article contains TRUTH, and some of you may not be able to handle that.

Also, if you’ve ever heard an argument that you thought was valid, but was not on my list, please email it to me. I’d be glad to add it to the list, and perhaps address it if necessary. If the argument contains something that shows me that I am wrong on my stance on music, I will humbly admit so, and post it for the public to see, because the purpose of this series is not to push my own opinion, but to uncover truth. That’s a promise, and I plan on keeping it.

Unfortunately, I have to start with the easy ones. There won’t be any unique revelations here today, just plain old common sense, so don’t get your hopes up too much. You’ll see what I mean after you read the first argument:

CCM is not godly.

When I’m trying to decide whether or not to debate someone, I generally try to ask myself one question about my opponent: does this person know HOW to argue. Yes, there are rules, and in order for the debate to be fruitful, both participants must understand how to argue. The first argument in the list, is not really an argument at all. In fact, it is a baseless declaration. It introduces no information, proposes no evidence, and shows a mountain of ignorance rather than the intelligent discourse that should be expected. Generally speaking, this “argument” is usually followed by a “why?” on the part of the opposing participant, to which the the first member responds with a series of actual arguments, contained in the remainder of my list. So, for those of you who happen to be on the side of CCM=evil, hear this: the declaration of your position is not, by any means, an actual argument, so please keep it out of the debate!!! We already know WHAT you believe, now tell me WHY you believe it!!!

CCM is just Christian words with sinful music.

OK, now we’re getting closer to a coherent thought that could be construed as an actual argument…but not quite. Let’s break this sentence down into two parts: 1) CCM is Christian words, 2) CCM is sinful music.

CCM is indeed Christian words. However, if you’re dumb enough to be one of those people who call praise and worship music, shallow, 7-11 music (that is, 7 words repeated 11 times…real funny), the let me ask you where the depth of “My Lord knows the way through the wilderness” or “Battle Hymn of the Republic” or “I’ll Fly Away” is. I can think of countless examples of hymns that you don’t hesitate to sing, that are way more shallow than your average CCM song, so I wouldn’t go there if I were you.

CCM is sinful music, is no different than saying that CCM is not godly. It is a declaration of your opinion of CCM, but it offers no substance as to WHY you feel that way! Offer some proof for you declarations if you’re going to be so bold as to make them!!!

CCM is bad because it tries to unequally yoke light with darkness, and the Bible says not to do that.

Is anybody detecting a theme here? I won’t continue to repeat myself, but once again, CCM is declared to be “darkness” without one bit of proof as to WHY it is darkness.

CCM is performed for money and fame, and does not glorify God.

Another 2-part argument, so let’s break this one down too. CCM is indeed performed for money. Albums are sold for money. Concerts are ticketed. All this is true. But, keep in mind that your pastor receives a paycheck every week too. It could be said that he “preaches for money” and that would be true to a certain extent. Paul’s ministry was supported financially, so why can’t a Christian artist support his/her family using the proceeds of sales and tickets? As far as fame goes, perhaps some artists do perform in order to obtain wealth and fame, but isn’t that an inward thing? Who are you to declare the motives of an artist? Can you read his/her mind? Not to mention that simply performing songs for fame is not reason enough to abandon the songs themselves. Just because something wasn’t necessarily meant for good, doesn’t mean that God cannot use it for good. Want proof, check out this guy named Joseph in the Old Testament. I think he’ll tell you otherwise. As far as the “does not glorify God” thing, well like I just said, just because you don’t mean for it to glorify God, doesn’t mean it can’t. Don’t believe me, check out this site and tell me if you still think it’s possible.

CCM artists are wicked worldly people who are in sin.

First of all, PROVE IT!!! Secondly, even if you can, the implication here is that if someone is wicked, we shouldn’t listen to, read, or watch their work. If this is the case, the writings of Paul, Peter, David, Solomon, Moses, etc. are to be discarded because of the wicked things they did. Also, many hymns would have to be abandoned as well, since many hymn writers either used to live in sin, were in sin when they wrote the song, or entered into sin after they wrote the song. These men’s songs are quickly defended by those who cherish their hymns, yet modern Christian artists are constantly being called wicked as a reason to convince people to stop listening to their music. Also, keep in mind that many of the CCM songs are not written by the artists who sing them. Must both the writer and performer pass a “spiritual test” in order for you to approve their songs? At what point do we just give in and admit that a good song, is a good song and stop bothering ourselves with the scrutiny of the lives of the authors and performers? Again, if we had done as much with many of the Biblical authors, we wouldn’t have much of a Bible today.

*For those of you who are going to say something like “but the Bible says we should separate from ungodly people!!!”, I’m going to be writing a post on Biblical separation principles soon, so hold off with the emails until you read that. Let’s just say that we take the principle of separation WAY too far, so I’m going to ask some questions about separation that should make you think a little. Should be fun :-)

OK, well hopefully that got the easy ones out of the way. I probably won’t do five in one post again, as many of the rest will require the entire post to thoroughly debunk them. Look for one, or maybe two if I’m feeling ambitious, in the future. As always, if there are questions, please don’t hesitate to email me with a challenge. I promise I won’t back down. Also, feel free to point out any inaccuracies. I tried very hard to include factually accurate information, but you have reason to believe otherwise, please let me know either though the comments, or email me, but let me warn you, you’d better have proof!

Anyway, until next time…


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No proof here, but a question: What about the argument that certain musical styles (rap, pop, rock, etc) are associated with “wicked” lifestyles. In this argument it would matter not that the performer is godly, singing godly lyrics with godly intent. The problem that is put forth is that, ignorantly or defiantly, the artist is “tainting” the performance by incorporating “the world’s music” into was is intended for God.

Do you find the “association” argument to hold any water?

It would seem you might, given your post about separation. That is, it seems that if a reasonable man would identify a given song with a “rock n roll” lifestyle versus a Christian lifestyle, the music is at least in a “gray” area.

Matthew,

I have a friend that reads this blog, who happens to be an atheist. When he read the post, he emailed me in confusion asking if there are REALLY Christians out there who think that contemporary Christian music was wrong! I had to answer him with a yes.

I said that to say this: the only people who would associate CCM music (be it rap, pop, rock) with “the world” are Christians who have been taught that music that was originally performed by secular artists, is somehow owned by the secular artists. Obviously, I disagree.

Does the association argument hold any water? I don’t really think so. If we look hard enough, everything we own, do, or participate in, is “associated” with “the world”. God called us to live IN the world, while not being OF the world. I think CCM is a great example of “in not of”.

Eventually, we have to look beyond the speculation of what we think non-christians would think of us, and simply go ask them. In my experience, non-christians think that it’s stupid that we take such a hard line stance on music. That’s not to say that they admire CCM. It’s just that they draw little, if any, association from it.

Great question!

Nathan

Nathan…

I love this blog! Discovered it through asking you to be my “friend” on facebook after seeing that Mikal was “friends” with you. So, facebook IS working for you after all!

I don’t have time to read all the posts right now (i’m at work…lol!), but be sure i’ll get around to it. I have no idea if i’ll agree with you on everything – and i’m sure i won’t :) – but, i’m looking forward to it. I love the way you write, too…looks like Madams Wilkins & Bailes paid off. :)

Keep it up…i’ll be back. Oh, & i’ll read the one about RSS or whatever & attempt to sign up or whatever you do, since it seems that’s something you want readers to do…LOL! Can you tell i’m new to this stuff?!

See ya!
Elisabeth

Hey Elisabeth,

Glad you like it :-) and I’m happy to know that I have a new reader! As far as the subscriptions go, you can either get an email every morning with the previous day’s posts, or you can use a feed reader (if you have one, or know what one is). If you’re feeling adventurous, you can try to learn the whole feed reader thing, but it’s just as well to use the email subscription.

Anyway, thanks for stopping by!

My problem is that I just don’t think it’s very good musically or lyrically. I am in my 20s but I love old hymns like “How Firm a Foundation” and “Praise, My Soul, the King of Heaven” and “Lead On O King Eternal” and one of my all-time favourites “Crown Him with Many Thorns”. They resonate with me, and CCM music just grates on my nerves.

I meant “Crown Him with Many Crowns” of course!

canadian,
Surely you wouldn’t equate “grates on my nerves” with “sin to listen to” would you?

I certainly don’t mind anyone who doesn’t like CCM because of their own musical preferences. What I have a problem with is the idea that people take something they don’t personally like, then going on a search for biblical reasons to call it a sin.

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