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	<title>Comments on: Music Series: Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/11/music-series-part-2/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 17:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>canadian,
Surely you wouldn&#039;t equate &quot;grates on my nerves&quot; with &quot;sin to listen to&quot; would you?

I certainly don&#039;t mind anyone who doesn&#039;t like CCM because of their own musical preferences.  What I have a problem with is the idea that people take something they don&#039;t personally like, then going on a search for biblical reasons to call it a sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>canadian,<br />
Surely you wouldn&#8217;t equate &#8220;grates on my nerves&#8221; with &#8220;sin to listen to&#8221; would you?</p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t mind anyone who doesn&#8217;t like CCM because of their own musical preferences.  What I have a problem with is the idea that people take something they don&#8217;t personally like, then going on a search for biblical reasons to call it a sin.</p>
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		<title>By: canadian</title>
		<link>http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/11/music-series-part-2/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 17:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant &quot;Crown Him with Many Crowns&quot; of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant &#8220;Crown Him with Many Crowns&#8221; of course!</p>
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		<title>By: canadian</title>
		<link>http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/11/music-series-part-2/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 17:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem is that I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s very good musically or lyrically. I am in my 20s but I love old hymns like &quot;How Firm a Foundation&quot; and &quot;Praise, My Soul, the King of Heaven&quot; and &quot;Lead On O King Eternal&quot; and one of my all-time favourites &quot;Crown Him with Many Thorns&quot;. They resonate with me, and CCM music just grates on my nerves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem is that I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s very good musically or lyrically. I am in my 20s but I love old hymns like &#8220;How Firm a Foundation&#8221; and &#8220;Praise, My Soul, the King of Heaven&#8221; and &#8220;Lead On O King Eternal&#8221; and one of my all-time favourites &#8220;Crown Him with Many Thorns&#8221;. They resonate with me, and CCM music just grates on my nerves.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/11/music-series-part-2/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Elisabeth,

Glad you like it :-) and I&#039;m happy to know that I have a new reader!  As far as the subscriptions go, you can either get an email every morning with the previous day&#039;s posts, or you can use a feed reader (if you have one, or know what one is).  If you&#039;re feeling adventurous, you can try to learn the whole feed reader thing, but it&#039;s just as well to use the email subscription.

Anyway, thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Elisabeth,</p>
<p>Glad you like it <img src='http://www.nathanrice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  and I&#8217;m happy to know that I have a new reader!  As far as the subscriptions go, you can either get an email every morning with the previous day&#8217;s posts, or you can use a feed reader (if you have one, or know what one is).  If you&#8217;re feeling adventurous, you can try to learn the whole feed reader thing, but it&#8217;s just as well to use the email subscription.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth Stephens</title>
		<link>http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/11/music-series-part-2/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabeth Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan...

I love this blog!  Discovered it through asking you to be my &quot;friend&quot; on facebook after seeing that Mikal was &quot;friends&quot; with you.  So, facebook IS working for you after all!

I don&#039;t have time to read all the posts right now (i&#039;m at work...lol!), but be sure i&#039;ll get around to it.  I have no idea if i&#039;ll agree with you on everything - and i&#039;m sure i won&#039;t :) - but, i&#039;m looking forward to it.  I love the way you write, too...looks like Madams Wilkins &amp; Bailes paid off.  :)

Keep it up...i&#039;ll be back.  Oh, &amp; i&#039;ll read the one about RSS or whatever &amp; attempt to sign up or whatever you do, since it seems that&#039;s something you want readers to do...LOL!  Can you tell i&#039;m new to this stuff?!

See ya!
Elisabeth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan&#8230;</p>
<p>I love this blog!  Discovered it through asking you to be my &#8220;friend&#8221; on facebook after seeing that Mikal was &#8220;friends&#8221; with you.  So, facebook IS working for you after all!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have time to read all the posts right now (i&#8217;m at work&#8230;lol!), but be sure i&#8217;ll get around to it.  I have no idea if i&#8217;ll agree with you on everything &#8211; and i&#8217;m sure i won&#8217;t <img src='http://www.nathanrice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; but, i&#8217;m looking forward to it.  I love the way you write, too&#8230;looks like Madams Wilkins &amp; Bailes paid off.  <img src='http://www.nathanrice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keep it up&#8230;i&#8217;ll be back.  Oh, &amp; i&#8217;ll read the one about RSS or whatever &amp; attempt to sign up or whatever you do, since it seems that&#8217;s something you want readers to do&#8230;LOL!  Can you tell i&#8217;m new to this stuff?!</p>
<p>See ya!<br />
Elisabeth</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew,

I have a friend that reads this blog, who happens to be an atheist.  When he read the post, he emailed me in confusion asking if there are REALLY Christians out there who think that contemporary Christian music was wrong!  I had to answer him with a yes.

I said that to say this:  the only people who would associate CCM music (be it rap, pop, rock) with &quot;the world&quot; are Christians who have been taught that music that was originally performed by secular artists, is somehow owned by the secular artists.  Obviously, I disagree.

Does the association argument hold any water?  I don&#039;t really think so.  If we look hard enough, everything we own, do, or participate in, is &quot;associated&quot; with &quot;the world&quot;.  God called us to live IN the world, while not being OF the world.  I think CCM is a great example of &quot;in not of&quot;.

Eventually, we have to look beyond the speculation of what we think non-christians would think of us, and simply go ask them.  In my experience, non-christians think that it&#039;s stupid that we take such a hard line stance on music.  That&#039;s not to say that they admire CCM.  It&#039;s just that they draw little, if any, association from it.

Great question!

Nathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew,</p>
<p>I have a friend that reads this blog, who happens to be an atheist.  When he read the post, he emailed me in confusion asking if there are REALLY Christians out there who think that contemporary Christian music was wrong!  I had to answer him with a yes.</p>
<p>I said that to say this:  the only people who would associate CCM music (be it rap, pop, rock) with &#8220;the world&#8221; are Christians who have been taught that music that was originally performed by secular artists, is somehow owned by the secular artists.  Obviously, I disagree.</p>
<p>Does the association argument hold any water?  I don&#8217;t really think so.  If we look hard enough, everything we own, do, or participate in, is &#8220;associated&#8221; with &#8220;the world&#8221;.  God called us to live IN the world, while not being OF the world.  I think CCM is a great example of &#8220;in not of&#8221;.</p>
<p>Eventually, we have to look beyond the speculation of what we think non-christians would think of us, and simply go ask them.  In my experience, non-christians think that it&#8217;s stupid that we take such a hard line stance on music.  That&#8217;s not to say that they admire CCM.  It&#8217;s just that they draw little, if any, association from it.</p>
<p>Great question!</p>
<p>Nathan</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew TIlley</title>
		<link>http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/11/music-series-part-2/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew TIlley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No proof here, but a question: What about the argument that certain musical styles (rap, pop, rock, etc) are associated with &quot;wicked&quot; lifestyles.  In this argument it would matter not that the performer is godly, singing godly lyrics with godly intent.  The problem that is put forth is that, ignorantly or defiantly, the artist is &quot;tainting&quot; the performance by incorporating &quot;the world&#039;s music&quot; into was is intended for God.

Do you find the &quot;association&quot; argument to hold any water?

It would seem you might, given your post about separation.  That is, it seems that if a reasonable man would identify a given song with a &quot;rock n roll&quot; lifestyle versus a Christian lifestyle, the music is at least in a &quot;gray&quot; area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No proof here, but a question: What about the argument that certain musical styles (rap, pop, rock, etc) are associated with &#8220;wicked&#8221; lifestyles.  In this argument it would matter not that the performer is godly, singing godly lyrics with godly intent.  The problem that is put forth is that, ignorantly or defiantly, the artist is &#8220;tainting&#8221; the performance by incorporating &#8220;the world&#8217;s music&#8221; into was is intended for God.</p>
<p>Do you find the &#8220;association&#8221; argument to hold any water?</p>
<p>It would seem you might, given your post about separation.  That is, it seems that if a reasonable man would identify a given song with a &#8220;rock n roll&#8221; lifestyle versus a Christian lifestyle, the music is at least in a &#8220;gray&#8221; area.</p>
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