Comments on: The Worthless Sermon http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/ The Personal Webspace of Nathan Rice Sun, 16 May 2010 21:27:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Nathan http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-75 Nathan Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:16:07 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-75 Andy, That sounds like a fantastic ministry! Andy,
That sounds like a fantastic ministry!

]]> By: Andy McAdams http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-76 Andy McAdams Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:18:04 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-76 Nathan, Good stuff. I’m new here and found my way over from the Mayberry Blog. I just had to read this article as I’m sure after 30 yeas of preaching sermons I have preached a few worthless ones. Praise the Lord for His forgiveness and how His Spirit points those out at the right times. I now travel and consult churches and as must as I would hope that pastors coming out of seminary would have been better trained in preaching and holding people’s attention while also teaching them the Word, I’m afraid that most of what you said in your article is the norm. Sad…but true. God help me to help them see this. Nathan,

Good stuff. I’m new here and found my way over from the Mayberry Blog. I just had to read this article as I’m sure after 30 yeas of preaching sermons I have preached a few worthless ones. Praise the Lord for His forgiveness and how His Spirit points those out at the right times.

I now travel and consult churches and as must as I would hope that pastors coming out of seminary would have been better trained in preaching and holding people’s attention while also teaching them the Word, I’m afraid that most of what you said in your article is the norm. Sad…but true. God help me to help them see this.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-74 Nathan Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:20:30 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-74 Richard, Although the "uniforms" aren't necessarily a part of a worthless sermon, they are indeed an example of a church that is pretty worthless. Speaking of which, I'm planning a post for the coming weeks called "The Worthless Church" that will be in the same vein that this post was, offering similarly humorous and sarcastic examples of how to accomplish a "worthless church". Should be fun!!! Richard,

Although the “uniforms” aren’t necessarily a part of a worthless sermon, they are indeed an example of a church that is pretty worthless.

Speaking of which, I’m planning a post for the coming weeks called “The Worthless Church” that will be in the same vein that this post was, offering similarly humorous and sarcastic examples of how to accomplish a “worthless church”.

Should be fun!!!

]]> By: Richard http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-73 Richard Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:47:22 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-73 Pro 1:20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: 1 Cor 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. Absurd? Pro 1:20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:

1 Cor 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Absurd?

]]> By: Richard http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-72 Richard Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:39:44 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-72 Don't forget the uniforms that allow you to know who is who in case you can't figure it out for yourself and remind you that it's a fat chance you might meet anyone like that on the outside. Don’t forget the uniforms that allow you to know who is who in case you can’t figure it out for yourself and remind you that it’s a fat chance you might meet anyone like that on the outside.

]]> By: Charity http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-71 Charity Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:26:01 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-71 Had to comment on this one, Nathan! (I'd love to comment on all of them, but I don't have enough time!)It's been a very LONG time since I sat through one of these worthless sermons you describe, and I'm having nightmarish flashbacks! Yep, I remember that behavior, and it is absolutely reprehensible. How can these pastors be so deluded, and how can their pitiful congregations be satisfied with it...oh yeah, wait, wouldn't this be what's described as "tickling the ears"? Sad...and scary. Thanks for speaking the truth. Had to comment on this one, Nathan! (I’d love to comment on all of them, but I don’t have enough time!)It’s been a very LONG time since I sat through one of these worthless sermons you describe, and I’m having nightmarish flashbacks! Yep, I remember that behavior, and it is absolutely reprehensible. How can these pastors be so deluded, and how can their pitiful congregations be satisfied with it…oh yeah, wait, wouldn’t this be what’s described as “tickling the ears”? Sad…and scary. Thanks for speaking the truth.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-70 Nathan Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:19:58 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-70 Great comment Rob! I think young pastors are great! I'm glad you got a kick out of the post. Most people who find it funny are one's who have seen things like this happen first hand. I like you point about setting a goal, and making sure that everything you say is used to accomplish that goal. Focused points are one of the most helpful things to keep oneself on target. Thanks for visiting. I'm posting my Music Series: Part 3 either today or tomorrow. Great comment Rob!

I think young pastors are great! I’m glad you got a kick out of the post. Most people who find it funny are one’s who have seen things like this happen first hand.

I like you point about setting a goal, and making sure that everything you say is used to accomplish that goal. Focused points are one of the most helpful things to keep oneself on target.

Thanks for visiting. I’m posting my Music Series: Part 3 either today or tomorrow.

]]> By: Rob Borkowitz http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-69 Rob Borkowitz Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:13:19 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-69 Ha! Ha! Have fun in hell, pagan-boy! Just kidding! :) Hey, great points and all true. I was a little worried about how I would measure up being a young pastor (age 34), but I think I passed! Yea! I find that doing expository preaching that makes sure you have a main point or "big idea" with points that support it is a huge help! Once I have that, the direction of my message is set and those rabbit trails are ignored (no matter how intertesting they might be) because I know to keep the main thing the main thing. My decisions are never what to say but what not do say because so much could be said on any given passage. A focused main point helps with that tremendously. Personally, I don't really understand how a pastor or anyone who speaks publically can do without it...but they do and the listeners often suffer for it. Ha! Ha! Have fun in hell, pagan-boy! Just kidding! :)

Hey, great points and all true. I was a little worried about how I would measure up being a young pastor (age 34), but I think I passed! Yea! I find that doing expository preaching that makes sure you have a main point or “big idea” with points that support it is a huge help! Once I have that, the direction of my message is set and those rabbit trails are ignored (no matter how intertesting they might be) because I know to keep the main thing the main thing. My decisions are never what to say but what not do say because so much could be said on any given passage. A focused main point helps with that tremendously. Personally, I don’t really understand how a pastor or anyone who speaks publically can do without it…but they do and the listeners often suffer for it.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-68 Nathan Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:00:21 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-68 I think it hits home among most anyone who has to sit through a speech, religious or not. The point is, if you have a goal or a purpose to your speech, then you should do everything you can to keep your audience's attention in order for them to GET THE POINT. Great comment! I think it hits home among most anyone who has to sit through a speech, religious or not. The point is, if you have a goal or a purpose to your speech, then you should do everything you can to keep your audience’s attention in order for them to GET THE POINT.

Great comment!

]]> By: George Daole-wellman http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-67 George Daole-wellman Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:00:16 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2006/12/11/the-worthless-sermon/#comment-67 This rings home for me, even as an atheist; not just from my experiences as a Boy Scout having to sit through awful Presbyterian services, but even from the former minister of the Unitarian Society my family attends. He was a nice guy with some good ideas, but his 'sermons' were a snore fest. This rings home for me, even as an atheist; not just from my experiences as a Boy Scout having to sit through awful Presbyterian services, but even from the former minister of the Unitarian Society my family attends. He was a nice guy with some good ideas, but his ’sermons’ were a snore fest.

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