Comments on: The Jesus Tomb Frenzzzzzy http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/ The Personal Webspace of Nathan Rice Sun, 16 May 2010 21:27:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Nathan http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-470 Nathan Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:24:26 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/27/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-470 Ubuntu, I wouldn't say it's not a good argument, but it certainly isn't the "magic bullet" argument some people think it is. The statistics, well, although it's odd that they have this combination of names, they were common enough. At least enough to cause serious doubt. <blockquote> Do you believe in the divinity of Jesus? Or even the historical figure? </blockquote> The historicity of Jesus is pretty undeniable. His divinty (by virtue of his resurrection) is paramount to the Christian faith, so yes, I believe both. The "Jesus factor" (his historical existence) is the most convincing argument for me in favor of Christianity. It's one thing to die for something that could be false but you believe it to be true. It's quite another thing to die for something you know NOT to be true. Such would have had to been the case in the historical martyrdom of the disciples and the early church. If he had not been resurrected, they would not have died defending and believing it. Hope that answers your question. Ubuntu,
I wouldn’t say it’s not a good argument, but it certainly isn’t the “magic bullet” argument some people think it is.

The statistics, well, although it’s odd that they have this combination of names, they were common enough. At least enough to cause serious doubt.

Do you believe in the divinity of Jesus? Or even the historical figure?

The historicity of Jesus is pretty undeniable. His divinty (by virtue of his resurrection) is paramount to the Christian faith, so yes, I believe both.

The “Jesus factor” (his historical existence) is the most convincing argument for me in favor of Christianity. It’s one thing to die for something that could be false but you believe it to be true. It’s quite another thing to die for something you know NOT to be true. Such would have had to been the case in the historical martyrdom of the disciples and the early church. If he had not been resurrected, they would not have died defending and believing it.

Hope that answers your question.

]]> By: Ubuntu http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-471 Ubuntu Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:24:23 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/27/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-471 Nate: Although I too am skeptical, the commonality of the names is not a good argument against it. A historian commented in the (Ottawa) Citizen that the odds of all the names just happening to be the same are 1 in 600. Do you believe in the divinity of Jesus? Or even the historical figure? -Ubuntu Nate:

Although I too am skeptical, the commonality of the names is not a good argument against it. A historian commented in the (Ottawa) Citizen that the odds of all the names just happening to be the same are 1 in 600.

Do you believe in the divinity of Jesus? Or even the historical figure?

-Ubuntu

]]> By: Nathan http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-477 Nathan Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:38:33 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/27/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-477 Alister, I saw that in your feed today. Great points by the way. Ben, I hear ya man! Alister,

I saw that in your feed today. Great points by the way.

Ben,

I hear ya man!

]]> By: Ben Cotten http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-476 Ben Cotten Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:36:15 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/27/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-476 Images of Geraldo Rivera in Al Capone's basement come to mind... Images of Geraldo Rivera in Al Capone’s basement come to mind…

]]> By: George http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-475 George Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:42:37 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/27/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-475 My first response was skepticism. After reading a few articles about it, I believe my initial skepticism was entirely justified. Does Cameron really want to turn himself into Ron Wyatt? My first response was skepticism. After reading a few articles about it, I believe my initial skepticism was entirely justified. Does Cameron really want to turn himself into Ron Wyatt?

]]> By: Alister Cameron, Blog Coach http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-474 Alister Cameron, Blog Coach Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:34:51 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/27/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-474 I wrote a letter to the editor of my local newspaper... something I do to "vent" from time to time. It was late last night, so I am guessing if it gets published I'll see it tomorrow. I wrote: <blockquote>Film director James Cameron has a thing for shipwrecks. First it was his epic film 'Titanic' and now a TV documentary (and book) based on a story that was well and truly sunk about twenty years ago: the unearthing of the alleged burial site of Jesus Christ. I have no doubt Cameron will make some quick dollars out of his latest project, but his credibility and integrity will have sprung major leaks. Putting his name alongside such dodgy pseudo-science and iconoclastic sensationalism was not a smart move. Clearly, Cameron picked the wrong partner-in-crime in Simcha Jacobovici, the documentary's producer, who is far better at sniffing a juicy story than scientifically rigorous and responsible archeology. Joe Zias, former curator for anthropology and archeology at the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem is blunt: "Simcha has no credibility whatsoever. He's pimping off the Bible … He got this guy Cameron, who made 'Titanic' or something like that - what does this guy know about archeology? I am an archeologist, but if I were to write a book about brain surgery, you would say, 'Who is this guy?' People want signs and wonders. Projects like these make a mockery of the archeological profession." All this notwithstanding, I'm sure it won't be long before we're seeing this anti-Christian documentary in Australia... on SBS, of course. </blockquote> Took me forever to write that. I get really anal about my prose on these sorts of things! - Alister I wrote a letter to the editor of my local newspaper… something I do to “vent” from time to time. It was late last night, so I am guessing if it gets published I’ll see it tomorrow.

I wrote:

Film director James Cameron has a thing for shipwrecks. First it was his epic film ‘Titanic’ and now a TV documentary (and book) based on a story that was well and truly sunk about twenty years ago: the unearthing of the alleged burial site of Jesus Christ.

I have no doubt Cameron will make some quick dollars out of his latest project, but his credibility and integrity will have sprung major leaks. Putting his name alongside such dodgy pseudo-science and iconoclastic sensationalism was not a smart move. Clearly, Cameron picked the wrong partner-in-crime in Simcha Jacobovici, the documentary’s producer, who is far better at sniffing a juicy story than scientifically rigorous and responsible archeology.

Joe Zias, former curator for anthropology and archeology at the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem is blunt: “Simcha has no credibility whatsoever. He’s pimping off the Bible … He got this guy Cameron, who made ‘Titanic’ or something like that – what does this guy know about archeology? I am an archeologist, but if I were to write a book about brain surgery, you would say, ‘Who is this guy?’ People want signs and wonders. Projects like these make a mockery of the archeological profession.”

All this notwithstanding, I’m sure it won’t be long before we’re seeing this anti-Christian documentary in Australia… on SBS, of course.

Took me forever to write that. I get really anal about my prose on these sorts of things!

- Alister

]]> By: Nathan http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-473 Nathan Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:52:41 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/27/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-473 tongue in cheek :-D I'm glad you got the humor, most people wouldn't have. tongue in cheek :-D
I’m glad you got the humor, most people wouldn’t have.

]]> By: David http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-472 David Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:24:37 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/02/27/the-jesus-tomb-frenzzzzzy/#comment-472 <blockquote>I’m not going to blog on it. Nope.</blockquote> No. Of course not. ;-)

I’m not going to blog on it. Nope.

No. Of course not. ;-)

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