Comments on: If Your Church is Turning Evil … err … Purpose Driven http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/ The Personal Webspace of Nathan Rice Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:15:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: remedyconnect.org -- it was never meant to be this way... http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-15860 remedyconnect.org -- it was never meant to be this way... Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:47:07 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-15860 [...] just ran across a great post today on Nathan Rice’s Blog (ok, ok, he wrote it in 2007, but I just ran across it today) where Nathan published a list of ways [...] [...] just ran across a great post today on Nathan Rice’s Blog (ok, ok, he wrote it in 2007, but I just ran across it today) where Nathan published a list of ways [...]

]]> By: Nathan Rice http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-984 Nathan Rice Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:47:35 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-984 @Amanda, Read over the post again. It was entirely satirical. I completely agree with you, and the arguments I put above were from <a href="http://www.vcyamerica.org/files/images/PDChurch.pdf" rel="nofollow">another website</a> and I was responding in my very typical sarcastic tone. :-) Hopefully you'll get it after reading through again ;-) @Amanda,
Read over the post again. It was entirely satirical. I completely agree with you, and the arguments I put above were from another website and I was responding in my very typical sarcastic tone. :-)

Hopefully you’ll get it after reading through again ;-)

]]> By: Amanda http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-983 Amanda Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:41:41 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-983 I beleive that name calling and backbiting are unchristian. If you have a problem with other churches, whatever they may be, you do not have to go there. and therefore it is none of your buisness. If you have not been to a church, you for sure have no right to say anything about it. Where does it say you have to have a denominational name in the name of a church? Where does it say you have to worship a specific way, It does not say these things are bad anywhere in the bible. Where does it say you have to sing certin hymns, or have a choir? Several of your points are just not backed by scripture anywhere. Before you point fingers, I am not a member of PD but, I beleive that what they are doing is reaching out to a group of people others have not been able to reach. Their numbers are growing, and maybe we should look into some of the ways they are reaching out, and try to reach out ourselves. Afterall, saving souls is what we should be doing, not bitter namecalling. I pray that everyone would strive for the ultimate mark of living christlike, and christ was reaching out, not sitting in a pew at a church. I beleive that name calling and backbiting are unchristian. If you have a problem with other churches, whatever they may be, you do not have to go there. and therefore it is none of your buisness. If you have not been to a church, you for sure have no right to say anything about it. Where does it say you have to have a denominational name in the name of a church? Where does it say you have to worship a specific way, It does not say these things are bad anywhere in the bible. Where does it say you have to sing certin hymns, or have a choir? Several of your points are just not backed by scripture anywhere. Before you point fingers, I am not a member of PD but, I beleive that what they are doing is reaching out to a group of people others have not been able to reach. Their numbers are growing, and maybe we should look into some of the ways they are reaching out, and try to reach out ourselves. Afterall, saving souls is what we should be doing, not bitter namecalling. I pray that everyone would strive for the ultimate mark of living christlike, and christ was reaching out, not sitting in a pew at a church.

]]> By: Tan Ye Wai http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-982 Tan Ye Wai Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:19:15 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-982 Everything you wrote are right. But Christian very stupid and stubborn. Let see how stupid and let them continual be stubborn Christian. Everything you wrote are right. But Christian very stupid and stubborn. Let see how stupid and let them continual be stubborn Christian.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-981 Nathan Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:51:38 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-981 @michele I'm definitely sorry you feel that way. Unfortunately, if you think that churches that are Purpose driven are working toward a one world religion, I'm afraid I can't help you. good luck with the anti-PD crusade. @michele
I’m definitely sorry you feel that way. Unfortunately, if you think that churches that are Purpose driven are working toward a one world religion, I’m afraid I can’t help you.

good luck with the anti-PD crusade.

]]> By: michele http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-979 michele Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:47:41 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-979 I'm sorry, you just sound so stupid. Your responses to those 23 changes are filled with such hate and offense. All the Purpose Driven Movement is doing is paving the way to make it easy for a global religion. You sound like you are to ignorant to see this. I pray you wake up and see the light. I’m sorry, you just sound so stupid. Your responses to those 23 changes are filled with such hate and offense. All the Purpose Driven Movement is doing is paving the way to make it easy for a global religion. You sound like you are to ignorant to see this. I pray you wake up and see the light.

]]> By: Jenean http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-980 Jenean Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:13:24 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-980 In regards to your comments about the music, there are several verses where we are reminded to sing a new song unto the Lord. You asked for Word, and here it is Psalm 33:3, 40:3,96:1, 98:1, 144:9, 149:1, Isaiah 42:10, Revelations 5:9 and 14:3. I could not find the any reference to the piano or organ. (Organs remind me of funerals, and quite frankly I am ready to rejoice in my resurrected Savior when I go to church. So if you want Biblical instruments get ready to break out the harp, lyre and tambourine. Burn the piano and the organ!! (They are not mentioned in the Bible.) In regards to your comments about the music, there are several verses where we are reminded to sing a new song unto the Lord. You asked for Word, and here it is Psalm 33:3, 40:3,96:1, 98:1, 144:9, 149:1, Isaiah 42:10, Revelations 5:9 and 14:3.
I could not find the any reference to the piano or organ. (Organs remind me of funerals, and quite frankly I am ready to rejoice in my resurrected Savior when I go to church.
So if you want Biblical instruments get ready to break out the harp, lyre and tambourine. Burn the piano and the organ!! (They are not mentioned in the Bible.)

]]> By: eLLe http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-978 eLLe Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:39:03 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-978 SOUND THE ALARM..... Subject: Huckabee Purpose Driven http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=658 Don't know if you all know this yet ...but baptist preacher 2008 Rep. Pres. candidate Huckabee is Purpose Driven (PD). Ref. Link is to Huckabee's official web page above...his blog...Huckabee uses PD's founder, Rick Warren's quote...hoping for an official endorsement from him. Purpose Driven is a cult that has taken over the mainstream church. SERIOUS PROBLEM: There are 38.8 million baptist in the USA. This is what has spiked Huckabee ahead in the polls suddenly. This could spell disaster for the US if these millions of baptists vote. Approx. 50% of voters vote, then say, the last election went something like 62 million for Bush vs. 59 million for Kerry-Dems. ---you see, now in 2008, we have 38 million baptist....then, add on to that, millions of foolish nonbaptist christians who will get on the bandwagon--especially, if Dobson and other 'leaders' endorse Hucakbee? Huckabee has the baptist's vote...then, think if PD Warren does official endorse him. Huckabee is the worst choice on the republican ticket--and the 'chrisians' are fixed to give us another Bush. I've friends personally who were PD 'resisters' and were thrown out of Lamar Baptist Church in TX. Huckabee (and you know the baptist demonination has fully accepted PD false teachings) does not recognize the error of PD---what kind of christian is he--another deluded one, like universalist GW? SOUND THE ALARM…..

Subject: Huckabee Purpose Driven

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=658

Don’t know if you all know this yet …but baptist preacher 2008 Rep. Pres. candidate Huckabee is Purpose Driven (PD).

Ref. Link is to Huckabee’s official web page above…his blog…Huckabee uses PD’s founder, Rick Warren’s quote…hoping for an official endorsement from him. Purpose Driven is a cult that has taken over the mainstream church.

SERIOUS PROBLEM: There are 38.8 million baptist in the USA. This is what has spiked Huckabee ahead in the polls suddenly. This could spell disaster for the US if these millions of baptists vote. Approx. 50% of voters vote, then say, the last election went something like 62 million for Bush vs. 59 million for Kerry-Dems. —you see, now in 2008, we have 38 million baptist….then, add on to that, millions of foolish nonbaptist christians who will get on the bandwagon–especially, if Dobson and other ‘leaders’ endorse Hucakbee? Huckabee has the baptist’s vote…then, think if PD Warren does official endorse him. Huckabee is the worst choice on the republican ticket–and the ‘chrisians’ are fixed to give us another Bush. I’ve friends personally who were PD ‘resisters’ and were thrown out of Lamar Baptist Church in TX. Huckabee (and you know the baptist demonination has fully accepted PD false teachings) does not recognize the error of PD—what kind of christian is he–another deluded one, like universalist GW?

]]> By: Josh http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-977 Josh Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:50:26 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-977 Nathan, Do what noone else has ever done to date, read Bob DeWaay's "Redefining Christianity - Understanding The Purpose Driven Movement" and give a Biblical defense to it. I have spoken to pastors at Saddleback, Willow Creek, and others, some who promised they would read it and then give a defense. Guess what? They read the book but refused to give a defense. Why? Because there is no defense. Perhaps you can be the very first person to read the book and give a defense. I'll even send you one free. Just drop me an email. Nathan,

Do what noone else has ever done to date, read Bob DeWaay’s “Redefining Christianity – Understanding The Purpose Driven Movement” and give a Biblical defense to it. I have spoken to pastors at Saddleback, Willow Creek, and others, some who promised they would read it and then give a defense. Guess what? They read the book but refused to give a defense. Why? Because there is no defense.

Perhaps you can be the very first person to read the book and give a defense. I’ll even send you one free. Just drop me an email.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven-2/#comment-971 Nathan Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:49:24 +0000 http://www.nathanrice.org/2007/06/07/if-your-church-is-turning-evil-err-purpose-driven/#comment-971 Teddy, I'm not sure I follow... Teddy,
I’m not sure I follow…

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